Craigslist and the $12 per hour standard for freelance projects in Hawaii.

[Kevin Luttrell]

I recently checked out Craigslist Hawaii in the info/web design section to see if any interesting companies were looking for people or if there were ads for interesting freelance projects. Amazingly, several ads were looking for a "student" or intern to manage a business web project or program Flash, Flex HTML, XML, and on and on and on ....for $12 per hour.
In contrast, there was an admin assistant job posted that payed $15 per hour and they hoped the candidates graduated from high school.
Reality disconnect?

The most amusing was an ad from a local business asking for designers, in shotgun fashion, to "make us a webpage and we'll select the best one and pay them". Work on spec, no client contact for input or content? amazing.

Bottom line, if you do freelance work craigslist Hawaii is probably not a good resource unless you're a student.

[Gus Higuera]

Hi Keven,

I take it you were the one who recently replied to one of the job postings on Cragislist. I saw that thread and I'm totally with you. If I hired a $15 per/hour intern at a web company I wouldn't expect their level of proficiency in web development to be anything above beginner or average.

[Scott Murphy]

I also with you. I'm am incredibly against spec design. It doesn't help our profession and it actually doesn't help the client either.

[Daniel Leuck]

Craigslist is definitely not a good source for web design or web app dev leads in Hawaii. A great site with good SEO will produce some good leads, but the best way is to network, network, network.

No serious designer or programmer works on spec. As for $12/hour work, well, you generally get what you pay for :-)

[Brian Russo]

Craiglist is a good place to find a used couch or something.. that's about it really. Perhaps in other cities the jobs listed there are decent but I've never seen much good there. I got one lead from there once and the customer didn't really seem to handle spending any real $$ either. Haven't tried since, decided it's not worth it.

[Kevin Luttrell]

I appreciate all the discussion offered here-- of course craigslist is a total waste of time for actual leads (at least in Hawaii--the SF version is another matter entirely) but its a great place when you need some primal scream therapy or a good laugh. I guess that was the point of my original post.

[John Barrett]

I will add even if you are a student craigslist is filled with scams!

Well maybe not scams if you would to create a website for $10/hour, but then they will only pay once they see you can actually do it. I was desperate enough for money to answer once, sad it is true:(

did not find out until I got there that is was $10/hour. The meeting lasted about 2 minutes I laughed, then I left.

I would warn everybody to stay away from craigslist.

In general I found that they were looking for expert web designs/developers but wanted to pay you like it was a job at resteraunt! In general you get what you pay for, if you only pay people $10/hour for a website, it will come out poorly, as nobody in their right mind would do this for such a little amount of money.

[Nate Sanders]

Here's another one:

(copied/pasted in case it goes away):

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Looking for a Matlab tutor to help with a two week project, assisting in writing pseudo code and in implementation. Pay is $50 for the two weeks, and tutoring time should be limited to three meetings. Please let me know your experience with matlab and tutoring, thanks!
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